Moving to Nice, France – Is it the Impossible Dream?

Last winter I had a free week between house sits in England and was looking for a way to pass the time. I have a friend living in Nice who invited me to fly down for the week. Figuring it was a great way to escape the cold, damp English winter, I agreed. It was a very spontaneous winter escape. But then I accidentally fell in love with Nice! But what about moving to Nice, France? I wondered, “Could I actually live here or is that an impossible dream?”

Six months later, I’ve moved to Nice. Or, I should say, I’m in the process of moving to Nice, France. I knew it wouldn’t be an easy thing, and I was right! It seems great dreams never are.

I arrived in France quite ignorant but hopeful, visualizing the dream of my ideal life in a charming little French apartment. Now I’m slightly less ignorant and even more hopeful. I’m so close to grabbing that dream I can almost taste it!

Here’s how it happened…

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Great place to contemplate life! Nice view.

 Valuable tips on moving to Nice – maybe it’s not an impossible dream?

Visa options for moving to Nice

France is one of the 26 countries that make up the Schengen Zone. This limits US citizens (and others) to a maximum stay of 90 days within a 180-day period anywhere within the zone. When the 90 days are up, you need to leave the Schengen Zone for 90 days before re-entering.

Since I have no interest in being a permanent nomad or hopping over to Croatia every 90 days, I decide to apply for a 1-year long stay visa for France. This will allow me to live in Nice and travel freely throughout the Schengen Zone for the duration of my visa.

The long-stay visa application process is not easy! In the past seven weeks since my arrival, I have been totally focused on the preparation required JUST TO APPLY for the visa. Once the preparation is done,  I will need to apply in person at the French Consulate in Chicago, which is closest to my “legal” US address in Minnesota.

The first pieces of the puzzle: open a French bank account and secure an apartment with a minimum one-year contract. Other requirements for long-stay visa approval include the promise to NOT work while in France and bank documents showing sufficient funds to support yourself while in the country.

(The exact amount of “sufficient funds” is a bit of a gray area, but I’ve read that the Chicago consulate looks at your monthly rent plus 800 Euros as being “sufficient”.)

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Plaza Garibaldi – home of affordable happy hour cafes!

Moving to Nice, France – the apartment rental search

During my extensive (obsessive) research prior to moving to Nice, I find that apartments are much more affordable than most people imagine. For example, a small studio or one bedroom in the Old Town area starts at around 450 EUR (about $540 USD) per month. With my budget of 450 to 600 EUR per month, I’m pretty confident I’ll find something easily and quickly.

I was so wrong! It’s not that easy!

I found one apartment online prior to my arrival in Nice that rented for 520 EUR per month, but it was long gone when I got here. After a few weeks of disappointment, my dream of living in Old Town is starting to seem unrealistic with my budget so I expand my search area. I spend many days just walking the streets of Nice, getting to know the neighborhoods as I try to picture myself living there.

But, unwilling to let the dream die, I decided to bond with those who know the Old Town area best – the Realtors. One office is highly recommended so I pop in one afternoon and ask about a few apartments advertised in the window. The realtor, Fatima, speaks perfect English and offers a viewing later that day.

Finally, the “Old Town” apartment hunt is on!

During the viewing, Fatima patiently explains a few things about the French system. In order to be financially “qualified” for an apartment, realtors require an income of three times the monthly rent. Since I technically won’t have an income, I’m required to deposit funds into a “frozen account” in the amount equivalent to ONE YEAR of rent. This is not a damage deposit but is simply a fund the apartment owner can tap into if I decide to stop paying rent. French law makes tenant eviction a long and difficult process and favors the rights of the tenant, so this is insurance for the landlord.

But first, I need to open a bank account to set up the frozen account to be approved for an apartment…

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Nice beach – fifty shades of blue. Another reason for moving to Nice, France!

Moving to Nice, France – opening a bank account

I remember back to the days when I opened my bank account with the Northwest Airlines Credit Union. It was SO easy back in 1985! A Credit Union representative came into the office, we filled out a form and signed on the dotted line. Very simple.

Not so simple here in France in 2017! First of all, very little business gets done during the month of August and, unfortunately, I arrived in late July. I spend the first few weeks wandering around in a daze, unsure which puzzle piece to attack first.

Once I regain my focus, it takes a week to even get an appointment at HSBC to begin the process of opening an account. They require copies of my taxes (US and Taiwan), the last 3 months of bank statements (US and Taiwan), a letter from my friend Maureen verifying that I’m staying with her, a copy of her passport (even though she banks there), a copy of her utility bill, a document stating how a large sum of money landed in my account (real estate deal), a letter from my old landlord in Taiwan, and a pint of blood since I don’t have a first-born child to offer as a sacrifice.

All of that paperwork is then sent to Paris for approval, which takes another 2 weeks. In the meantime, I’m apartment hunting and need to set up a “frozen account”.  But I can’t do that until I have a bank account. (Chicken vs egg situation…)

So, in order to speed up the process, Fatima suggests I set up the frozen account directly with the real estate company. Fortunately, they arrange it in 3 days rather than the 3 weeks projected by HSBC. Finally, some progress!

Valuable tip: Set up a bank account with an international bank in your home country and then transfer the account to France! I didn’t have that option since there are no HSBC branches in my area.

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Nice Port.

International wire transfer

I jumped into this step of the process completely blind. When I lived in Taiwan, I did a few international wire transfers to the US but I requested them IN PERSON at my bank in Taiwan and it was quite simple.

My current situation requires me to wire funds from the US to France, while physically being in France. I call my US bank to request the transfer and find I was missing an important document – the secret code. In order to get the secret code, I need to fill out a form have it notarized and then MAIL the original document back to them. Once the secret code is issued, I’m able to request an international wire transfer over the phone.

But I need to wire funds to the real estate company for the frozen account and I need it done NOW!

Thankfully, my US bank makes a “one-time” exception after I explain that I need the wire transfer urgently for an apartment.

Valuable tip: DO NOT USE your bank for international wire transfers. The rates are horrible! I lost a few hundred dollars in the transaction due to a bad exchange rate. Do your research!

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Cote d’Azur view.

Moving to Nice, France – cost of living

Finally, after seven weeks of connecting the pieces of my new life, I move into my new home. It’s the charming little French apartment of my dreams. The large French windows overlook the fish market and interesting, historic buildings across the plaza! Home at last!

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The view from my quaint French apartment.
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My dining room with a view.

So I throw my Turkish rug down on the floor of my unfurnished, totally empty apartment. I lay there for a while, exhaling deeply, so relieved to finally be home! (So…now what?)

And then I get up and start organizing the utilities, wifi, and all the rest. I now have a better idea of my actual total monthly expenses.

Real Cost of Moving to Nice, France

Rent – 510 EUR / month

Electricity – 35 EUR / month (flat rate)

Wifi and cable TV – 18 EUR / month

Renter’s insurance (required by the government) – 19 EUR / month

Total – 582 EUR / month 

Misc stuff (going out money) 400 EUR / month (budgeting 100 EUR /week)

Grand total – 982 EUR / month (about $1153 USD)

My “miscellaneous” budget will probably decrease once I settle into my apartment, shop at local markets, and cook at home a little more. Also, skipping that extra glass of white wine at Shapko will help reduce the “fun money” budget!

So, it seems the pieces of my new life are fitting together nicely, and now it’s time to turn my attention to the Long-Stay Visa Application. After all of this work, they simply CAN’T deny my visa application and crush my dreams! Can they?

Will it end up being the “Impossible Dream”?

(See the saga of the Long-Stay Visa application right here! And for updated information on the Long-Stay Visa application process, click right here!)

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16 Replies to “Moving to Nice, France – Is it the Impossible Dream?”

  1. What a long process! Sounds exhausting, but you certainly have the guts, determination and a lot of courage to make this dream happen. I’m glad you finally got your beautiful french apartment– 7 weeks is a long time to spend searching! Looks cute!

    1. Thanks, Leah! I knew it would be a difficult process but I’m confident it’ll be worth it in the end. I love my little apartment and am now focused on the next step – applying for my long stay visa! Even after that’s approved, there will be more hoops to jump through but I’m ready!

  2. Congratulations!!! It’s amazing that you need to put so much effort on this, but finally, you got a nice place now.

    1. Thanks, Sunny! I love my little apartment! Now I’ll head back to the US to apply for my visa and pray that the French government will let me stay! Keep praying please! 🙂

  3. Dear Andrea,
    I wish you so much luck for your visa application! We met in Nice in September and as you know, I also love Nice since a long time.
    Hope to see you next September in Nice!
    All the best,

    1. Thanks so much, Imke! Right now I’m sitting at Starbucks across the street from the consulate, just waiting patiently for my appointment! Once that’s finished, emailing you was on the top of my To Do list! See you next time you’re in Nice!

  4. France is beautiful. I had the opportunity to visit a few times.

    1. Yes, it sure is a beautiful country! So happy I moved here!

  5. Margo Derecktor says: Reply

    Hello Andi,

    Thank you so much for sharing your story and for laying out what your experiences have been thus far. I have been seriously considering moving to the South of France and so I appreciate your words of wisdom greatly. One thing that I am particularly curious about, as most everyone is, is how to go about finding employment? I have 9 years of French under my belt but that was almost 7 years ago. Do you have any suggestions?

    Thank you!


    1. Hi Margo,
      Thanks for reading! It makes me really happy when readers see the possibilities after reading my stories. I sincerely hope you find a way to make the South of France a reality. As far as employment, I don’t have much advice in that area since my long-stay visa prohibits working for a French company. I’m focusing on finding work online – either writing or editing. And hopefully, someday my blog will generate a bit of income too. If you have skills that translate into online work, there are quite a few platforms like Upwork, Fiverr, Indeed, and others. With your French language skills, maybe translating is something you could look into? Best of luck! Please let me know if you’ve got any other questions!

      1. I’ve been wanting to work online for quite sometime like customer support, I’m a certified nursing assistant an want to work online but I have no way how I can do that.. can you help

        1. Hi Taylor,
          I’d suggest checking on Upwork or Indeed for freelance remote work. I’m not sure how you could incorporate your nursing background but there would very likely be customer support positions. Also, check on Facebook for Digital Nomad groups. The groups are full of nomads and people who want to be nomads. They tend to be very supportive and helpful. Best of luck!

  6. HI Andi, LOVE that NICE experienced ! Are you still living in NICE! I plan to visit the city this May or August ! and I found your article very helpful. Currently I live in Orlando , FL and I’m in the mid of selling my house in Winter Garden and heading to Asia perhaps Saigon, Taipei are on my list for months of stay.
    I love to meet up if you’re in NICE or somewhere in Asia!
    Best Regards,

    Yen Huynh

    1. Hi Yen,
      Yes, I’m still living in Nice and loving it! Enjoy your time in Asia. That’s where I went when I left Tampa a few years ago. I spent 3 months in Vietnam and then wandered through Southeast Asia for a bit. Have fun and let me know if you make it to Nice!

  7. I just moved to USA from UK, chicken and egg situation caused me much problems here in USA too and the amount of stuff I needed to open a bank account was ridiculous. It also took forever to get the bank account. The banking system in USA is prehistoric. It was probably fairly simple for you to open a bank account as a citizen in USA but trust me its not the case for none Citizens.

    Hope you had a great time in France, a beautiful country in such an amazing continent

    1. Thanks! I’m still living in Nice and loving it – except for the whole quarantine situation we’re currently facing! Best of luck in your new life in the US!

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